Does Free Will lead to Energy Non-conservation?

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August 5, 2013 by styagi68


In a recent conversation with a friend, he made a startling declaration–there is no free will in the world!  His contention was that everything is pre-ordained and that we are only acting out our part off a script that has already been fully written out.

So what is free will.  Free will would mean that we can choose to act in one or another way.  To have a fatalistic view of the world which says that there is no free will at all means that there is no possibility of exerting effort in one or another way to change the outcome.

Let us look at an example.  Let us you have a slice of pizza in front of you and you need to decide whether to eat that slice or not (of course we can create a more serious question like you have a Rs 1000 note on the ground and you are trying to decide whether to pick it up or not).  Now on the face of it, we make that choice all the time.  Sometimes we eat the pizza slice and at other times we resist and refuse it.  However, if you take it one more level, the choice to eat the pizza went through some process of thinking or intution which decided to eat or not to eat.  Maybe you had indulged heavily the previous night and were feeling too full.  Maybe you have been exercising for a week straight and felt you could indulge a bit.  In either case before your hand reached out for the pizza slice, there was a signal in the brain which asked the muscles in your hand to contract and relax in a way that you reached out for the slice or not.

Now that process of looking at some information stored in your mind, processing it according to some prior rules, all can be done deterministically.  So the question is that presented with exactly the same stimuli can we chose to act in two different ways.  At the end of the day the question will come down to whether “we” can control a simple firing of neuron in our brain.  Who makes us think to begin with?  It is like a binary switch.  And any switching needs energy.

Another example is to view the world like a closed system.  To simplify, let us assume it to be made of billiard balls floating around in a gravity free space.  Now, one can observe the billiards balls and can deterministically determine there position at any time period in the future.  Only way for the balls to be in a different place then predicted by Newtonian mechanics is for external agent/energy to be brought in which changes the direction, velocity or mass of the ball.

So, if we believe that there is free will we need to believe that there is a source of energy outside our current view of universe which allows us to change the deterministic outcome of a physical system.

Or does it?  Maybe we are simultaneously in both states, and the consciousness effortlessly (without involving energy) decides to pick one path.  So either we have to believe an infinite external source of energy or simultaneous existence of multiple “realities.”

4 thoughts on “Does Free Will lead to Energy Non-conservation?

  1. Paritosh and Purnima's avatar Paritosh and Purnima says:

    Excellent writing, dear Sonu. Both of us discussed on it. Our views are stated below.
    According to scriptures, there are five factors that cause an act: karta (doer), karan (instrument), upadan (matter), che’shta (effort) and daiv (fate or divine). Che’shta depends on free will exercised by karta. Another explanation was given by Dr Radhakrishnan : in a game of bridge, the cads you get is fate and the way you play is action. Thus both have own roles in life.

    • styagi68's avatar styagi68 says:

      Respected Chachaji and Chachiji,
      The question being raised here is that does existence of cheshta reconcile with physical laws of physics. Interestingly, there is no way one could reconcile these two things where we can change something without pre-existing conditions (momentum).
      Sandeep

  2. The key phrase is “Newtonian mechanics.” Multiple simultaneous realities suggests quantum physics, so after reading your post, I had to google the quote by Einstein, uncomfortable with his own discoveries of the randomness in quantum physics, that “God does not play dice.” It took me to a fascinating post by Stephen Hawking on the subject here: http://www.hawking.org.uk/does-god-play-dice.html.

    The problem with non-Newtonian physics of course, is that in our limitations as human beings we have no way of internalizing it; it violates all of our intuitive experience in the world. The best line in Hawkings’ essay is, “Although quantum mechanics has been around for nearly 70 years, it is still not generally understood or appreciated, even by those that use it to do calculations.”

    Perhaps quantum mechanics allows us to reconcile free will as the “external” source of energy that forces the multiple realities to reduce into the one that we experience?

    • styagi68's avatar styagi68 says:

      Jordan
      Quantum mechanics has established that there is non-deterministic element in nature. So everything is not deterministic and we can’t ascertain cause and effect in a purely predictable way is clear. However, Quantum mechanics is silent about the intent of the randomness. Can we intend the unpredictability to manifest in a particular way or is it totally random. I understand that as soon as we say we are intending, we are making it deterministic again (cause is the will) but this is the crux of the issue.

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